Use Jobs to Be Done and switch interviews to find problems worth solvingâwithout VC money. A practical playbook for bootstrapped founders.
Find the Right Problem to Solve (No VC Required)
A lot of bootstrapped founders waste months building the wrong thingânot because they canât ship, but because they started with a solution.
When youâre doing US startup marketing without VC, you donât get to hide behind big ad budgets, âbrand campaigns,â or a growth team. Your marketing is your product, your clarity, and your ability to talk to customers in a way that surfaces what theyâll actually pay for. Thatâs why I keep coming back to Jobs to Be Done (JTBD)ânot as a trendy framework, but as a practical way to stop guessing.
Rob Wallingâs Startups for the Rest of Us episode with Jim Kalbach (author of The Jobs To Be Done Playbook) nails the part most founders skip: finding the right problem to solve before you write codeâor when youâve hit a growth plateau and donât know what to build next.
Jobs to Be Done is a âno-BSâ way to predict adoption
JTBD helps you describe what customers are trying to accomplish without getting trapped in your product idea. That sounds simple, but itâs the difference between building âa dashboard appâ and building âa way for a founder to trust their numbers without chasing spreadsheets.â
Kalbach frames it as a framework for innovation that lets you talk about the market without talking about brands, features, or your solution. Most founders do product-market fit backwards: build something, show it to the market, get a âmeh,â iterate, repeat.
JTBD flips the order:
- Start with the problem people are already solving (often poorly).
- Understand the forces behind switching solutions.
- Then design the product (and marketing) around those forces.
One line from the episode is worth taping to your monitor:
âJobs are stable over time even as technology changes.â
Thatâs the heart of bootstrapping longevity. Tools change. Budgets change. Platforms change. But the underlying jobâthe reason people pull out a credit cardâtends to stay steady.
Why this matters for marketing without VC
Bootstrapped marketing works when your message is specific and obvious:
- âStop losing customers at cancellationâ beats âsubscription retention tools.â
- âKnow when you can afford your next hireâ beats âfinancial planning software.â
JTBD gives you the language for that specificityâwithout spending $20k on positioning consultants.
Pre-product: how to find problems worth paying for
If you donât have a product yet, your job is to pick a market slice and map the job. Kalbach suggests starting with two scoping decisions:
- Who do you want to innovate for?
- What problem area do you want to innovate in?
Founders often avoid committing here because commitment feels like âclosing doors.â The reality is the opposite: commitment stops you from shipping random features and calling it strategy.
Step 1: Choose the âwhoâ with a stakeholder map
Answer-first: Make a list of all actors in the domain, then choose who feels the pain most directly.
Example: say youâre interested in home improvement contractors.
- Owner/operator
- Office manager
- Sales rep
- Field crew lead
- Bookkeeper
- End customer (homeowner)
A bootstrapped SaaS often wins by serving the person who:
- feels the pain daily,
- has authority (or strong influence), and
- can justify even a âsmallâ monthly subscription.
Thatâs not always the CEO. Sometimes itâs the ops manager who canât keep schedules straight.
Step 2: Choose the âwhatâ and get it down to one job
Answer-first: List all possible problems, then force yourself to narrow to 1â3.
If your âwhatâ is âcontractor software,â youâre dead. Thatâs not a job; itâs a category.
A better âwhatâ might be:
- âQuote and win jobs without forgetting follow-upsâ
- âKeep projects on schedule when crews and materials change dailyâ
- âCollect payment faster and reduce disputesâ
This is where bootstrapped founders get an advantage: youâre allowed to be narrow.
Step 3: Interview for process, outcomes, and circumstances
Kalbachâs interview lens is practical and founder-friendly. In pre-product interviews, youâre probing for three things:
- Process: How do they currently get the job done?
- Outcomes: What does success look like? Whereâs the pain?
- Circumstances: When does it get harder or easier?
Here are example questions that work well (and donât require you to pitch anything):
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Process
- âWalk me through the last time you did thisâstart to finish.â
- âWhat happened right before you started?â
- âWhat do you do after itâs âdoneâ?â
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Outcomes
- âWhat part is most annoying or stressful?â
- âWhatâs the cost of getting it wrong?â
- âHow do you measure if it worked?â
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Circumstances
- âWhen does this become urgent?â
- âDoes it change when business is busy vs slow?â
- âWhatâs different when itâs a bigger client vs a small one?â
A strong signal youâve found a valuable job: people already built a workaround. Spreadsheets, Zapier chains, email templates, manual copyingâthose are not âcompetition,â theyâre proof of demand.
Plateaued growth: switch interviews are the cheapest growth strategy youâre not using
Switch interviews help you understand why customers changed behaviorânot why they like your UI. If youâre stuck at $3k, $10k, or $30k MRR and growth has flattened, you donât need more random feature ideas. You need to know what triggered adoption.
The key concept: customers âhireâ and âfireâ solutions.
- They fired a spreadsheet, a competitor, or a manual process.
- They hired your product to make progress.
Switch interviews reverse-engineer that hiring moment.
What switch interviews actually reveal
Answer-first: They reveal the forces that created a purchaseâpushes, pulls, anxiety, and habit.
A simple way to think about it (aligned with classic JTBD switching forces):
- Push: What made the old way unacceptable?
- Pull: What was attractive about the new way?
- Anxiety: What nearly stopped them from switching?
- Habit: What inertia did they have to overcome?
These forces are pure bootstrapped marketing fuel. They become:
- your landing page bullets,
- your onboarding emails,
- your demo script,
- your pricing page objections handling,
- your content topics.
A concrete example: cancel flows (B2B churn reduction)
In the episode, Rob brings up the idea of a product like Churnkey: personalized cancellation flows for subscription businesses.
A switch interview here isnât âwhat feature do you want?â Itâs:
- âWhat happened the week you decided you needed a better cancellation flow?â
- âWhat was the moment you realized churn was costing you real money?â
- âWhat did you try first?â
- âWhy didnât that work?â
If multiple customers say, âWe were getting angry cancellation emails and it started showing up in G2 reviews,â thatâs not a feature request. Thatâs a job trigger and a marketing angle.
The hidden payoff: JTBD makes your positioning obvious
Most bootstrapped startups donât have a traffic problem. They have a clarity problem.
When you can name the job clearly, three things get easier fast:
- Your homepage headline stops sounding like everyone else.
- Your content marketing stops being generic.
- Your sales calls become tighter because youâre diagnosing, not pitching.
Rob and Jimâs mini roleplay in the episode is a great illustration. Rob didnât âbuy a dashboard.â He switched because he wanted:
- less manual grunt work,
- more accuracy,
- more confidence in the numbers,
- better visibility into trends.
Notice whatâs happening there: the job isnât âview metrics.â Itâs closer to âtrust the state of our marketing without spending team time on reporting.â Thatâs a positioning statement you can build an entire product (and content strategy) around.
How to turn interviews into bootstrapped growth assets
Answer-first: Donât let interviews die in a notes docâturn them into copy, onboarding, and content.
A simple workflow Iâve found effective:
- Record calls (with permission).
- Highlight exact phrases customers use (their words beat yours).
- Bucket phrases into:
- triggers (âwe hit a wall whenâŚâ),
- desired outcomes (âI just wanted toâŚâ),
- objections (âI wasnât sure it wouldâŚâ),
- alternatives (âwe tried X firstâ).
- Ship small changes weekly:
- headline tweak,
- email rewrite,
- new cancellation save offer,
- one new integration.
Bootstrapped founders win by compounding small improvements, not betting the company on one giant repositioning project.
A practical 14-day plan (no budget required)
You can run JTBD-style discovery in two weeks with nothing but customer calls and a doc.
Days 1â3: Define your scope
- Write your current best guess for:
- WHO: the primary actor
- JOB: verb + object (e.g., âforecast cash runway,â âreduce churn,â âschedule crewsâ)
- List 10 people you can talk to (customers, churned users, prospects, peers).
Days 4â10: Run 6â10 interviews
- Pre-product: focus on process/outcomes/circumstances.
- Existing product: focus on switching moments.
Days 11â14: Create your âjob storyâ and ship one change
- One paragraph that states:
- situation + trigger,
- job theyâre trying to do,
- desired outcome,
- why current options fail.
Then ship one meaningful change based on what you learned.
The point isnât perfection. Itâs momentum with real-world signal.
Where this fits in the âUS Startup Marketing Without VCâ playbook
Marketing without VC is mostly about making fewer expensive mistakes. JTBD is one of the simplest ways to do that because it forces you to stop arguing about features and start aligning around customer progress.
If youâre bootstrapping, your best growth channel is still the oldest one: talking to customers and letting their real constraints shape your product and messaging. Switch interviews and job mapping formalize that process so itâs repeatable, not vibes-based.
If youâre deciding what to build next, hereâs the standard worth holding: your next feature should make the customerâs job meaningfully easier, faster, or less risky. If it doesnât, itâs probably a distraction.
Whatâs one âswitchâ you could interview for this weekâand what do you think youâd learn if you asked five customers to walk you through it?